Sunday, December 1, 2013

How To Spot A Fake Natural Bodybuilder - IronGangsta's Guide


Since the very beginning IronGangsta has been informing its readers about all fake natural bodybuilders out there. But how do you spot a fake natural bodybuilder ? There are many guides out there and we beleive that IronGangsta mush have one as well !

The easiest way to spot a fake natural bodybuilder is to analyze his weight to height ratio while taking into consideration the body fat levels of the "athlete".

Example:

If someone is 200lbs/6'1 while being 5-8% body fat it's quite unlikely for him/her (haha..) to be natural. You can see the general guidelines for natural bodybuilders outlined below. Keep in mind that the weight listed comes with 5% BF (really hard to maintain and achieve without killing somebody around you or simply being a crazy/dedicated person on a very strict diet).

5'11  177 
5'10  170 
5' 9   163 
5'8    154 
5'7    147 

For every inch of height below or above 5'10 you add/remove 7 lbs. This is the maximum muscle a natural bodybuilder who is really dedicated and has favorable genetics for bodybuilding as well as lifestyle able to support such life (strict diets, less stress...etc) will ever achieve. Most people would be pretty happy with such physique. Of course the magazine, YouTube...etc ave made many lifters overestimate what kind of physique you can actually achieve without taking drugs, hormones and other drugs.

Let's take a look at some fake "natural" bodybuilders:

Jeff Seid 

Note: Jeff Seid is a few years older now but this does not make him more "natural".

As you can see Jeff Seid is 10 pounds over his "natural weight" at the age of 17.  While 10 pounds do not seem like a lot you have to keep in mind that the numbers listed above are only for natural bodybuilders much older that 17 who have been training for years. In order to illustrate this even better please look at the following picture.

6' tall and 200lbs heavy

The guy in the picture is Serge Nubret and this photo is taken at Mr. Olympia 1975. According to Serge himself he was 200lbs and 6' at that competition. He finished second. If Jeff Seid is telling the truth about his bodyweight he is only about 10-15lbs less than a Mr. Olympia contender from the 70s. The difference is 5 lbs but we add 10lbs because most likely Serge Nubret was heavily dehydrated during Mr. Olympia 1975 while Jeff Seid is not. When you keep all that information into consideration it becomes that obvious Jeff Seid is as natural as Serge Nubret.

Note: Some people have also reported that Jeff Seid is usually making himself taller than he actually is. Sweet.

You say "good genetics" ? Try harder we are not that stupid.


Josh Hyaduck


Josh Hyaduck is another fake natural bodybuilder. He is only 5'6 tall but weights 186 at very low body fat. Frank Zane who was a well known steroid abuser and Mr. Olympia title holder competed at the weight of 185lbs at 5'9. I think it is safe to make the conclusion that Josh Hyaduck is as natural as Frank Zane.

Obviously the above method is quite easy but there are also other ways to spot a fake natural bodybuilder.


This is a picture of the famous Lazar Angelov. Take a look at his shoulder, face and overall thickness. Natural bodybuilders will never ever have full shoulders especially at such low body fat. Second, his body looks so dry and thick it's not even funny. Very hard look to achieve naturally.

Below is an even better example of a thick, "shredded" and dry body on steroids.

This is Ben Noy, another fitness model


Achieving the above muscle separation and level of leanness is pretty much an impossible task to achieve with just clean eating and lifting weights. If you want to try anyway say goodbye to lots of time and money only to fail.

Another think you have to take into consideration when you are wondering whether someone is natural is the source of his/her financial income. For example the majority of the fitness models and bodybuilders out there make most of the money through contracts with supplements companies, magazine covers...etc.

Obviously if an athlete is making money through the mentioned scheme he/she won't benefit at all if everybody knew he/she was using anabolic substances to achieve “them gains”. Drugs are not well tolerated by the media and people using them are considered “cheaters”. To an extend they are because they cheat the public and mainly their followers.

Look at the number of people who liked the Facebook page of Lazar Angelov – as of now it is something like 930 000. The reason for is the fact that many people aspire to look like that and believe they can actually achieve similar muscular development naturally. Obviously everybody has different motivation but the majority of men would like to look like Lazar in order to attract the attention of women. Show a picture of Lazar to 10 women and while some won't approve they will all be willing to test him for one night. Now if you tell all that 930 000 or so people that pretty much all professional fitness models are not lifetime natural bodybuilders the interest will drop because suddenly everybody will realize that the sacrifice they have to make in order to look like their heroes is much larger and the consequences are much more serious. The interest will drop pretty fast and the supplements sells will go down as well. 

Who would want that ?


33 comments:

  1. can i look like brad pitt in fight Club or edward norton in american history x naturally?

    how long would it take?

    i am currently 5' 9 and 173-176 pounds

    i do full body workout 3 times a week

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    1. Absolutely. Like Iron said, it's mostly diet.

      You would only want some basic muscle, and then you really have to diet down to 6-8% bf.

      Bear in mind that you will NOT look exactly like them, because genetics are very important.

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  2. Yes, you can. How long ? 5 months. Diet is the key.

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  3. Terrible people, atleast guys like Phil Heath and Ronnie coleman don't take them big bad steroids.................

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    1. They take Insulin,growth hormone,diuretics,igf 1LR3 instead.

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    2. They take pretty much everything that builds muscle...

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    3. ^Lawl, it was a joke but pretty much yeah. Its just that people think that AAS turn you into a mass monster. AAS are nothing compared to the stuff these guys take, STEROIDS don't kill you and most of the side effects if not all are easily reversible if you do it smartly and don't become reckless.

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    4. I agree with what you've said. But taking all that juice to become as 'mass monster' is business (or should I say its to make money)! Many of the failed bodybuilders I know become porn actors and they usually start looking sloppy after a few months on the set.

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    5. it depends... if you are unlucky one single cycle is gonna fuck you up ten years later...ready to go?

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  4. Where's the forum? I miss the forum!

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    1. I am really sorry I know you've wrote a lot of useful information there. It's my fault.

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    2. Shit, the forum's gone :(

      Are you going to put it back up?

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    3. It got hacked somehow. It's my fault. I will probably make a new one but can't tell you exactly when. I apologize to you because I know you've wrote plenty of useful information on it.

      Thank you.

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    4. Looking forward to the new forum :)

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  5. This is my new favorite site dedicated to bodybuilding, I ran into this site purely by accident by looking up pics of Chris Jones to see his physique and if he looked natural. What initially sparked my interest was looking at a youtube video where Luimarco was breaking down the best bodyparts of the Youtube Fitness Guru's and he also said he would not focus on whether or not they were natural. But I will be doing some commenting and love the site once again, I am about to go through some more archives!!!

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    1. Thanks for the support and the positive comment. I hope this site is useful to you.

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  6. Hey bud, where do you get these natural heights and weight limits? I am 5'8 and according to you the heaviest I can naturally be at 5% bodyfat is 154 lb. What did you use to determine that?

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    1. Those guidelines were given to me by a former IFBB pro. Seem to work pretty well.

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    2. Hi, I just found your site. Excellent stuff although I have to disagree with you on the hight to weight ratios. I'm 39 and have lifted and/or competed in grappling since my early teens. I'm 5'11 and usually maintain between 185-190 and lean. Although I've never measured my body fat I know that I'm just as lean or leaner than my friends who juice when they juice. I have NEVER juiced. The strongest thing I've ever used is creatine. With discipline, the right diet, proper technique, enough sleep, etc... you can get decent results. The fact is, most people aren't as disciplined as they could be and don't lift with proper technique/understand how to build a good program. I'm not saying it's easy, but it is doable.
      Anyhow, aside from this point, I agree with most of what you say on this blog. Keep up the good work.
      http://missiontotransition.blogspot.ca/

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    3. Are you walking around at 5% though? I highly doubt it. Let's assume you are 9-10% body fat. Do the maths and you will appreciate that you are more accurately 177ish; right in line with the above guidelines.

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    4. I agree with Palmer..Iron gangsta knows his stuff but any lifter who has done it for years will tell you that the reason for a lack of success with natural lifters is the lack of patience and consistency. there will be times of fast gains and slow gains and no gains but what ties it all together is to keep at it. make every day count, give every workout your best. That being said, I am 5' 7 at 175 at 10%. My arms are just a little below 17" You have my max potential at 5% to be 147...I beg to differ, especially since I am actually still gaining...and I am an ectomorph who started out at 5' 6 115 ish and yes it took like 7 years and I'm no where near my limit IMO. People say its because i'm black but I Also have friends of different nationalities at even lower percentages which great amounts of muscle..much more than your theory dictates. What do we have in common? We have been consistent for years...we do our best with food and we aren't afraid to push ourselves..

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  7. When I read your articles its like I'm talking to myself. Its true. If people knew the truth about bodybuilders and fitness models, the once obtainable would become improbable. This is the same reason why most 'gay' entertainers hide the truth about themselves from the public. If all the hormone manipulated little girls knew that Justin Beiber was a bisexual on the verge of becoming full homosexual, well you get the picture!! Not telling the public is cheating anyway you look at it!

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  8. Well, I learned about this the hard way.

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  9. Can i ask you a question? My questions is that is it true that natural bodybuilders cant have full delts development? Achieveing a large delts requires the usuage of anabolic steroids? thankyou:)

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  10. This guy must be on steroids as well.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta3WYrK2eMw

    His name is Patrick Reiser. Weight is 82 kg apparently. I hate these steroid abusers who claim natural.

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    1. Check out Minute 6.42 onwards, where Patrick Reiser poses. Lol at "natural" and superior genetics claim.

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    2. He has that Jeff Seid Trenbolone looks to him.

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