Sunday, December 8, 2013

The Truth About Bodybuilding.com


IronGangsta.com does not have an account on Bodybuilding.com. We got banned a couple of times and after that we saw no point in trying to post there. The board has so many limitations and the level of maturity and intellectual development is extremely low. Here is an analysis of BB.com in a nutshell.

Bodybuilding.com is a place where teenagers with very little knowledge or experience regarding weight lifting go to educate themselves. However since the site has very strict policy regarding discussion of anabolic substances most people use code words such as "cell tech" when they are talking about synthetic hormone sand other medicaments abused by professional bodybuilders on daily basis.  

illustration by Pawel Kuczynski

Of course there are experienced lifters there but the majority of the forum is formed by young adults trying to improve their physique in order to please girls/boys and feel better about themselves. Since money in bodybuilding is coming from supplement sales (that's why every retired or active IFBB bodybuilder is trying to push a new "revolutionnary" supplement line) the real income for site like BB.com and T-Nation is generated by naive teenagers and their parents who do not know any better. However since the BB.com has millions of visitors every day it is really hard to control everybody and that's why every now and then a little bit of truth is able to pass through the strict control of the moderators but for the most part all you find there are cocky teenagers who have hard time spelling correctly. If you don't agree with them you will be politely asked to "try harder, phaggot". At the same time everybody is fighting for their "reps" without realizing that they are nothing more than junkies and the dealers are the supplement companies, BB.com, T-Nation, StartingStrength.com...etc.

22 comments:

  1. Their nutrition and training section + misc for laughs are solid actually. They've got Alan Aragon there after all. Of course there are black sheeps, but there are outstanding knowledgeable people there too.

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    1. Of course there is useful information there. Thanks for the comment.

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    2. What do you think of GH15.org? I registered there and man they opened my eyes to those fake natties.

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  2. Oh yeah, Aragon can be fully trusted. Rrrriiiighghghtttt.

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    1. He's a serious scientist for the most part, but he very much belongs to that industry, and as such, he can't be fully trusted. He recommends the same crazy levels of protein as all of those experts do, for instance (buy, oh yes, buy more protein powder, creatine, etc...)

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    2. Ok. I get it. He plays the good cop.

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    3. To be fair his protein requirements are lower than some of gurus like Poliquin who reccomend over 1.5 g per lbs (and then we have Jamie Lewis who reccomends 2 g per lbs and over) and he also said that there is benefit to higher protein intakes for some athletes like those in caloric deficit. Otherwise 0.7-0.8 g per lbs which he reccomends in Protein Roundtable isn't a high protein amount. I mean you can get that from a 500 g of chicken breast + 5 eggs. From him I also learned that creatine loading is bullshit and that it's not needed and if you use it 3-5 g a day is enough and supplement itself is optional.

      http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=156452743 - Good thread IMHO.

      Oh and hi King Neptune, long time no see from Askscooby.com forum. How it's going for you.

      I would say that he's better than most gurus (broke down myth of post-workout nutrition, you know that you have to consume it under an hour, he said that the timing is irrelevant, same for number of meals) and always stays up to date with scientific literature. He doesn't make any of stuff up.

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    4. Also.

      Alan Aragon: "One more thing - let it be clear that I'm a proponent of finding the lowest protein intake to achieve the given goal. - Wish I bold this.
      This makes sense from both an economical perspective, as well as a metabolic stress perspective in sensitive individuals. However, due to the inevitably varied nature of individual response, I'm also a proponent of consuming a "cushion" above what theoretically suffices as a mean intake in studies. Especially for individuals whose main goals are either muscle anabolism, or the prevention of muscle loss.

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    5. Well, in your link, he seem to imply that the usual 1g/lb is kind of a minimum...lol

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    6. I think he reccomends 1 lb per g because it's a safe zone in bulking or cutting scenario, he still acknowledges lower intakes (1.2 g which is what you support, right?) for some populations, just like with higher intakes.
      Also this paper makes a good case for higher intakes in athletes in energy deficit.
      http://static.squarespace.com/static/5248a8c6e4b0a4c7037edb93/t/52598d7ae4b0c103e9732601/1381600634668/Helms_ijsnem_2013_0054-in%20press.pdf

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  3. BB.com is the worst to have intellectual conversations. Everytime you ask something they keep pushing you the stickies, which quite frankly wasn't well written for the average laymen to comprehend. Worst are roiders commin in to the forum telling everyone how they achieve their physiques and how they are 190% natty when the truth is that none of are! This site made plenty of fake natties famous from Zyzz, Josef Rakich, Josh Hyaduck, Jeff Seid, Kris Gethin and Steve Cook!

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    1. What really fucking pisses me off is some of the guys who are OBVIOUSLY on the Juice flat out fucking claim that they're natural and act all nice and say how they did it with hard work and determination, and then other fake natties defend them. FOR FUCKS SAKES BE A MAN AND ADMIT TO JUICING IT ISN'T EASY WITH JUICING EITHER AND STOP FUCKING SHOWING NATURALS FALSE HOPE. Anyone who truly takes bodybuilding seriously should take steroids it won't kill you (I've researched this subject thoroughly) the idiots who get permanently shut down and have to take TRT are the ones who do stupid shit like Blast and cruise instead of cycling (although even blast and cruise can be done safely).

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    2. Steroids are not worth unless you are a pro...and even then...

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    3. Amen even on the juice its still hard, although the hard work and payoff ratio is better. I just hate when the try to be inspirational! OH lord!!! Worst is when they give bad advice. They trying to relate their personal experiences and success to people who will not ever take the same stuff they are taking. It really confuses people even further to what works and what doesn't work.
      Probably the funniest fake natty I've come across on the site is this:
      http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=149144063&page=2
      What a terrible liar!
      At some point in the post he says: He "usually state" that he's natural. Its like WTF if your natty your never say usually, its like your sometimes say that you took drugs lol! On another post he says "my doctor doesn't suspect me of ever taking drugs". I mean should he really? You should have told him just for good measure srsly! Its hilarious!

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    4. For me Ru roid should never be an investment up until you are going to get a supplement contract, a well paying modeling contract as fashion model or fitness model or get a Superhero role on a movie on a big screen! Till then I believe people should avoid investing on such because lets face it the drugs don't pay for themselves right?

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    5. The superman guy seems like a fake account..at least I hope it is....Thanks for the comments.

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  4. irongangsta you are a god of natural bodybuilding and the truth about all aspects many thanks for your infomations thankfull for your work

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